Episode 303
Dolly Parton and the Art of the Hollow Piano
Michael McCaslin, the owner and creative director at Keyhole Piano Shells, elucidates the innovative approach to creating lightweight, portable piano shells that have garnered attention in the music industry. He recounts the genesis of his venture, inspired by a need for musicians to transport instruments with ease, particularly in performance settings where space is often constrained. The discussion delves into the evolution of his designs over the past two decades, emphasizing the importance of material selection and the development of efficient production techniques. McCaslin shares anecdotes regarding customer interactions and bespoke requests, illustrating the diverse clientele who seek his products, ranging from homeowners to professional musicians and churches. This episode provides a compelling insight into the intersection of creativity, craftsmanship, and the demands of modern music performance. A discourse unfolds surrounding the artistry and craftsmanship behind the hollow pianos produced by Keyhole Piano Shells, under the expert guidance of Michael McCaslin. The conversation begins with a vivid recollection of Dolly Parton's performance at a Thanksgiving halftime show, where the necessity of a lightweight piano becomes apparent. McCaslin elucidates the challenges of transporting traditional grand pianos, thus establishing the revolutionary concept of hollow pianos. He recounts the inception of his business, attributing inspiration to an earlier model crafted by a fellow musician, which led to a surge of creativity and innovation in his designs. The dialogue progresses to explore the evolution of production techniques over the past two decades, highlighting the transition from rudimentary methods to the utilization of advanced machinery, such as CNC machines, which have significantly enhanced efficiency and precision in manufacturing. McCaslin’s reflections on the initial struggles and gradual success of his enterprise provide insight into the entrepreneurial spirit required to navigate the complexities of the music industry, ultimately resulting in a broadened clientele that spans individual musicians to large-scale production companies.
Takeaways:
- Michael McCaslin discusses the evolution of Keyhole Piano Shells, emphasizing the importance of lightweight materials for portable pianos.
- The initial inspiration for the piano shells originated from a fellow dueling piano player who commissioned a custom design.
- Customer feedback has directly influenced the design process, leading to improvements in both aesthetics and functionality of the piano shells.
- The production efficiency has drastically improved, evolving from making twenty pianos in a year to potentially three hundred.
- Customization is a significant aspect of their service, with clients requesting unique designs and finishes for their pianos.
- Keyhole Piano Shells serves a diverse clientele, ranging from homeowners to professional musicians and churches, illustrating the versatility of their products.
Links referenced in this episode:
Companies mentioned in this episode:
- Dolly Parton
- Christopher Cross
- Gretsch
- Home Depot
- Sam Ferguson
- Keyhole Shells
Transcript
Yeah.
Speaker A:Dolly Parton was on stage during the Cowboys halftime show last Thanksgiving.
Speaker A:And beautiful white.
Speaker A:Beautiful white piano right there on stage.
Speaker A:And how else are you gonna drag it out into the middle of a 50 yard line, you know, without it.
Speaker A:Without it being hollow?
Speaker A:I don't.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:It's true.
Speaker A:Sounds like my back hurts thinking about it.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:But that's what we do.
Speaker A:We just.
Speaker A:We make.
Speaker A:We make hollow pianos.
Speaker B:Very cool, Very cool.
Speaker A:For.
Speaker A:For that, for that very thing.
Speaker B:One of those things.
Speaker B:It sounds so simple.
Speaker B:Like, yeah, of course.
Speaker B:Why wouldn't you.
Speaker B:You got to carry this thing around.
Speaker B:Like, you mentioned the, the 50 yard line.
Speaker B:You're not going to have, you know, the capacity to be lugging this massive full grand piano in.
Speaker B:But you mentioned humble beginnings, so I'd love to hear what that means and what that looks like for your company.
Speaker B:Like, how did this start?
Speaker B:How did you get this idea?
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:Yeah, how'd it go?
Speaker A:I got to admit, the idea wasn't mine.
Speaker B:Fair enough.
Speaker A:There, yeah, there.
Speaker A:There were those before me.
Speaker A:But there was one particular style that a fellow dueling piano player had made for him by just a.
Speaker A:Just a mom and pop wood shop, cabinetry shop even.
Speaker A:And he just showed him kind of what he wanted.
Speaker A:And he shows me this thing and I'm like, that's pretty cool.
Speaker A:I like these ideas.
Speaker A:And I had floated some ideas in my own head, but this one was pretty spot on.
Speaker A:And, you know, a lot of what I made is what I've come up with through the years is based off of that.
Speaker A:But then there's always been input.
Speaker A:Also, I had one of my very first customers say, you know what?
Speaker A:I need something more with the legs than just a flat.
Speaker A:A flat rectangular leg.
Speaker A:I need some more embellishments, something more to it.
Speaker A:And it was through his nudging that, okay, well, we're gonna make this change and we're gonna change the process, this a little bit.
Speaker A:And until you know it, it ends up becoming what it is now.
Speaker B:Yeah, that's.
Speaker B:That's cool.
Speaker C:And how long.
Speaker C:How long did the whole process actually take for you to feel confident to use your prototype and actually sell it out into the public?
Speaker A:Oh, wow.
Speaker A:That.
Speaker A:That came in phases.
Speaker A: l, I, I made the first one in: Speaker A:I made four of them and two of the.
Speaker A:I've sold all four of them.
Speaker A:This is within the last couple of years even.
Speaker A:I used them.
Speaker A:Just the first set I ever made.
Speaker A:One set was sold a While ago.
Speaker A:And, and it's.
Speaker A:I don't know where it is now, but the set that I just recently parted with is still being used by another dueling piano player.
Speaker A:It's still in use.
Speaker A:It's almost 25 years old.
Speaker B:Wow.
Speaker A:So they last.
Speaker A:So they're.
Speaker A:Yeah, it's still out there.
Speaker A:Now.
Speaker A:The, you know, sure, the current design's a lot different as far as the, the way that we build them, but the, the concept and the strength and the, you know, the overall idea is still the same.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I mean what's, what's changed since you mentioned that, like the way that you started building them versus now 20 some years later?
Speaker A:I would say you, you find as you go, when you, when you start, what you have available to you is, is a big box, Home Depot style warehouse that you can go into and you could buy your off the shelf materials and they're okay.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:But they're not, but they're not what you end up needing when you start needing bunks of lumber.
Speaker A:You know, I go through bunks of plywood every month and, and as opposed to cutting it out with a jigsaw and a flush cut router by hand, which I used to do, I don't know if you can hear the hum in the background, but there's a CNC machine running.
Speaker A:Yeah, it does it all now.
Speaker A:So, so yeah, I think phase one was probably figuring out the right, you know, the right materials to use to get the perfect balance between weight and quality because you could buy that.
Speaker A:Interestingly enough, the cheaper material weighs less and you would think, well, I'll get the cheaper material and it won't be as heavy.
Speaker A:Only it's also, it has voids in it, the plywood itself and it's, you know, it's more likely in temperature swings to get wavy or to buckle.
Speaker A:And I just, I just want the best, you know, I just want the best materials that, that we could do.
Speaker A:The legs are made of solid wood.
Speaker A:They're solid poplar throughout.
Speaker A:And, and that's, that's just one of the things that we changed along the way.
Speaker A:We said, you know, that we're going to do this.
Speaker A:We're gonna.
Speaker A:I made the lathe that cuts the, the tenon on the leg.
Speaker A:I mean, I made it from, from, from parts.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:And I've, I've one, I have one worker in particular loves.
Speaker A:He likes that machine.
Speaker A:It's his favorite because he puts his little earbuds on and then the headphone, you know, the headphones on and he.
Speaker B:Just goes to work.
Speaker A:That's his thing.
Speaker A:You know, it's his thing.
Speaker A:So, so we, and, and we do.
Speaker A:We have a couple of different workers that, that, that are here.
Speaker A:That high schoolers.
Speaker A:Those are hit or miss.
Speaker B:Yeah, I could imagine.
Speaker C:Yeah, of course, of course.
Speaker A:Hopefully more hit than this.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:But, but the, but the, the changes in materials, the differences in developing relationships with your vendors.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:Is something that was a big hurdle to get through because you could say, well, I, you know, I'll go, I'm going to start my own business up with, with what lumber, with what laminate material, adhesives.
Speaker A:You, you still need delivery drivers and, and ways to move your products in and out of your shop.
Speaker A:There's, there's a lot that goes on.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:It's a, it's a whole, It's a thing.
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:You, you hit on some stuff that, I mean, I wouldn't even consider in the production of your, of your keyboards or your piano.
Speaker C:Sorry.
Speaker C:But how long.
Speaker C:When you went from the beginning, how long does it take to produce one now?
Speaker C:And how long did it take for the first couple?
Speaker C:Maybe ten.
Speaker C:Like, what's the turnaround time now as opposed to what it used to be?
Speaker C:Say 10, 15.
Speaker A:I like that question.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:All right.
Speaker A:Well, I got, I got little American fingers, let me tell you.
Speaker A:So I'll be honest.
Speaker A:When we first started, we might have sold 20 in a year.
Speaker A:And this is even after I was, I built them for my.
Speaker A:I would build them for myself or then I would build them for a co worker of sorts.
Speaker A:He has his own dueling pianos troupe and he was working out west.
Speaker A:And he was really the first real customer of mine, Sam Ferguson.
Speaker A:He won't mind me saying his name.
Speaker A:He'll like that.
Speaker A:Shout out to Sam.
Speaker A:And he was also the inspiration for the better, the nicer upgraded legs that fit the actual, you know, an actual acoustic piano.
Speaker A:More.
Speaker A:More precisely because that's what we're going for.
Speaker A:We're trying to mimic that look.
Speaker A:And, and so he's, he's part of the, He's.
Speaker A:He was the inspiration for that bit.
Speaker A:And he's, he's bought at least.
Speaker A:Oh man, 18, 20 of them over the years, but probably the first six or so he purchased for his, his troops out west and in west United States and he's still.
Speaker A:Oh, actually he has two of them here that he needs to pick up.
Speaker A:Sam.
Speaker A:Hey, I got a piano's here.
Speaker A:Yeah, your order's ready.
Speaker A:And so he's one of the people that got me Started and now fat.
Speaker A:And those pianos were made.
Speaker A:As I mentioned.
Speaker A:I had cut out template and sanded it down nice and made the curves, you know, the way you want them to be and as close as possible.
Speaker A:And then I use that template, made a pencil line around it on a fresh piece of stock, cut wide with the jigsaw, put the template back on, put the flush cut router bit in the router and go around it again.
Speaker A:And then it sand that up.
Speaker A:And that was how it used to be done.
Speaker A:And again, I might, I might have made 20 or so the first few years.
Speaker A:Fast forward to now.
Speaker A:You know, we're.
Speaker A:We might, we might do 300 in a year.
Speaker A:Big jump.
Speaker A:Yeah, I hope so.
Speaker A:This year.
Speaker C:Wow.
Speaker A:We have, we do have a couple of customers.
Speaker A:Some clients that they are.
Speaker A:They're ordering our pianos that are a little more customized and then we send them out.
Speaker A:We send them out unbranded but got, you know, we still count in our list.
Speaker A:You know, of course the output is still there.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:The serial number's still in our books, boys.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:But, but that's, that's if this year pans out the way, the way it's looking right now.
Speaker A:We're were able to do that.
Speaker A:And it was just me.
Speaker A:It was just me.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Just starting off.
Speaker A:And now I have a part time adult.
Speaker A:He's in his.
Speaker A:He's in his 40s, so I trust him.
Speaker A:And he comes in, you know.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:He comes in and he'll do Saturdays.
Speaker A:And he's been on it long enough now that I can have a pile of things for him to do and.
Speaker A:And he'll get through.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I may not have to be here.
Speaker A:In fact.
Speaker A:That same guy.
Speaker A:Yeah, that same.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Once you get the workers to where you could just kind of point and grunt.
Speaker C:That is what they understand.
Speaker A:That is fantastic.
Speaker A:That is wonderful.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:And every worker's different.
Speaker A:The learning curve.
Speaker A:It may be takes them a little longer to get to that grunt stage, you know.
Speaker A:Stage.
Speaker A:I like that.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:But, but, but I got hard.
Speaker C:Was that for you to take your hands off.
Speaker B:Oh, that's.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:And like in delegate and start delegating.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Still working right there.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:That's because this is your baby.
Speaker A:That's your baby.
Speaker A:Do I.
Speaker A:There's still times when I gotta imagine.
Speaker A:Gotta kind of elbow in, you know, and give me that file.
Speaker A:Let me, give me, give me the scraper.
Speaker A:Let me go.
Speaker A:My favorite one is give me the paint roller because you're making a mess.
Speaker A:That's one.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah, give me the paint roller.
Speaker A:You're making a mess.
Speaker A:Can't have that.
Speaker B:That's.
Speaker B:That.
Speaker A:That one's good.
Speaker A:Especially the newbies.
Speaker A:This, you know, drips and runs everywhere and I got to go back behind them.
Speaker A:And, and, and granted what we paint is the underside and the inside, you know, just to just kind of hide the shadows still, you know, I got.
Speaker A:There's customers looking at this.
Speaker A:It matters.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:And I imagine your customers are pretty specific about the look that they're going for and things like that.
Speaker B:Do you get any strange requests?
Speaker B:Like, anything that.
Speaker B:I know you probably have a whole bunch of, like, standards, but you mentioned the customization.
Speaker B:Is there anything that's kind.
Speaker B:Of.
Speaker B:That stands out at least?
Speaker A:There have been a couple.
Speaker A:We just did one for Christopher Cross and his crew and they wanted their piano to match their drum kit, which was a purple sparkle Gretsch.
Speaker A:And we ended up getting the.
Speaker A:Oh, man, it's.
Speaker A:It's sweet.
Speaker A:It.
Speaker A:And we, we did.
Speaker A:We did end up with a picture of it, of it set up on.
Speaker A:On the stage, along with the drum kit.
Speaker A:And it does.
Speaker A:It matches perfectly.
Speaker A:And yeah, it looks sweet.
Speaker C:Beautiful.
Speaker A:So I couldn't have.
Speaker A:I couldn't have been happier.
Speaker A:And it came.
Speaker A:It came in smaller panels than what we're used to, and that meant quite a few more seams.
Speaker A:But it.
Speaker A:You can't see them.
Speaker A:They turned out perfect.
Speaker A:Every.
Speaker A:They're rave.
Speaker A:They raved about it.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:Amazing.
Speaker A:Real happy.
Speaker B:Amazing.
Speaker A:Real happy with that.
Speaker B:Yeah, that's pretty cool.
Speaker B:And then I guess just thinking, still on the, like, along the lines of clients, do you have like a typical type of client or a typical client, or is it like a range?
Speaker B:Is it all over the place?
Speaker A:Well, you mentioned, one of you mentioned that there were different expectations from customers, and that is true.
Speaker A:There's a wide range of what customers are looking for.
Speaker A:Sometimes that's easy to vet out and other times it's more difficult.
Speaker A:We have customers that are.
Speaker A:Anything from behind me is a homeowner that wanted just.
Speaker A:They just wanted a piece of furniture in their home and they happened to be a piano player.
Speaker A:And right now she has a keyboard and she loves her keyboard and she doesn't want to get rid of her keyboard, but she also wanted her piano shell to go around it to match it perfectly because this is the kind of person that's probably not going to change their.
Speaker A:Their keyboard over the years.
Speaker A:So I did a. Yeah, I did an actual.
Speaker A:A glued out that just kind of built the sides out to match the width of her keyboard and.
Speaker A:And it's going out.
Speaker A:So she's.
Speaker A:She's going to be happy with that.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And so you got homeowners like her that are.
Speaker A:These are, these are folks.
Speaker A:They're gonna have company over and this is going to be something that's spotlighted in their home that is a talking piece.
Speaker A:And so these are the discernible.
Speaker A:These are the discerning customers that want their picky.
Speaker A:On the other hand, we sell to some backline companies that set up for big shows.
Speaker A:And these companies, there's lights all over the stage, flashing and moving and shadows everywhere, and no one's gonna notice a tiny hair, you know, hairline scratch right on the, you know, on the top of the.
Speaker A:No one will ever see that.
Speaker A:Yeah, they got, they got dancers tap dancing on the thing, Crying out loud, you know.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So it's not like, it's not like so big, wide range.
Speaker A:Everything from homeowners.
Speaker A:I have a church behind me.
Speaker A:I got dueling pianos behind me.
Speaker A:I have that homeowner behind me.
Speaker A:And then another solo.
Speaker A:Katie's getting one.
Speaker A:She asked.
Speaker A:She has us, is having us do a custom logo for hers.
Speaker A:So customizations, everything from finishes to logos to.
Speaker A:What else have we done?
Speaker B:Range.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, we've had customers.
Speaker A:Well, this church behind me is doing two keyboards.
Speaker A:So they have a keyboard that currently is just sitting on a. I think it's sitting on top of the other keyboard and halfway on the buttons and such.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:Yeah, so one keyboard like an organ player, essentially.
Speaker A:In fact, they may have come from organ beginnings.
Speaker A:I guess I don't ask the customers any questions.
Speaker A:That's.
Speaker A:That's the other boss's job.
Speaker A:They just, they just, they just have me touch the pianos and do mostly that.
Speaker A:I'm surprised they let me talk to you, frankly.
Speaker B:Oh, we're glad they did.
Speaker B:So is that a two layer piano show that you're making or.
Speaker A:Yeah, so it is.
Speaker A:And I don't know if you see it behind me.
Speaker A:There's a shelf in the middle.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:Yeah, so there's.
Speaker A:You could put, you know, your piano, your main piano on the bottom.
Speaker A:And then the.
Speaker A:They had a 61, wasn't even full key.
Speaker A:And they, you know, I said, send me a picture of your setup.
Speaker A:And they take a picture.
Speaker A:I'm like, okay, that's.
Speaker A:I'll build you that.
Speaker A:Only that's cool.
Speaker A:It'll be put together nicer and.
Speaker A:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker A:It's going to fit all your gadgets.
Speaker A:The way that, the way that it's going to make it look nice.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:For almost everybody.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Really cool.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker A:That's, that's what we're going for.
Speaker B:I love it.
Speaker B:I love it.
Speaker B:I love it.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So just a couple more things here.
Speaker B:I know you gotta run, get some more shells made and satisfy some more clientele, but I am wondering, I know you might have touched on it a little earlier.
Speaker B:Who is this for?
Speaker B:I mean, I know there's a wide range, but like your typical client or like, is there anyone like I.
Speaker B:We have a lot of listeners who are musicians in all different capacities, so maybe you could speak on that.
Speaker B:Use this.
Speaker A:For sure.
Speaker A:It started out mostly focused on portability, mobility.
Speaker A:Making it so that one person by themselves could get something that looks like a piano in and out of a vehicle that is maybe a hatchback or larger and drag it through a doorway, a human sized doorway into an establishment.
Speaker A:You gotta, you gotta dodge all the tables and chairs getting in there and you don't really want to mess with them because the staff will give you the dirty looks you can't believe.
Speaker A:And then you only have this area that's about 5ft by 5ft to set up in.
Speaker A:And somehow you gotta do this.
Speaker A:How do you do it?
Speaker A:How do you make it work?
Speaker A:And that's, that's how I got started because that was me.
Speaker A:But fast, right?
Speaker A:Fast forward now and it went from, well, I want mine to be a little bit bigger.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:I want mine to be bigger still.
Speaker A:Well, do you make one that's the size of a baby Grant?
Speaker A:And maybe the answer at the time was, well, not yet.
Speaker A:And, and then it was, well, you know, I, I bought this expensive piano.
Speaker A:There's, it's gorgeous and it, it's light and I can move it, but I don't have any way to protect it while it's being moved.
Speaker A:Do you make cases now?
Speaker A:I have to figure out how to do cases.
Speaker A:Oh, and you know what?
Speaker A:Good luck to the competition finding competent case manufacturers because, wow.
Speaker A:We went through a few.
Speaker A:I can imagine that's.
Speaker A:And yeah, it's just, it's, it's part of the journey.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:And now we, we can make.
Speaker A:Our current newest product is a full size.
Speaker A:We're, we're, we're going after slam grand.
Speaker A:There you go.
Speaker A:There's another name drop.
Speaker A:That's, that's, that's one of our competitors.
Speaker A:And you know what they make, they make fantastic stuff.
Speaker A:I really, I got no complaints.
Speaker A:But, but it's all heavy.
Speaker A:It's all heavy.
Speaker A:And they're selling to the Katy Perry's of the world and these acts that sure, they can afford to hire stagehands that can move something that weighs 600 pounds.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker A:That heavy?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah, they could be that heavy if they're the size of our newest stuff, which is.
Speaker A:We had a customer ask for finally a nine footer and we're gonna make it.
Speaker A:And they, they want a road case to match.
Speaker A:So it's a big case.
Speaker C:Yeah, no kidding.
Speaker A:That's it.
Speaker A:That's a monster.
Speaker A:It's a monster.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And you're not gonna roll us into a minivan.
Speaker B:It's gonna be a little different transportation setup.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:These are the folks.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:That have the big semi trailers.
Speaker B:That's cool.
Speaker B:But that covers everybody.
Speaker B:And I'm glad that you explained it that way because you painted the picture of who this is for really well.
Speaker B:Someone who's doing a corporate gig or a bar gig even.
Speaker B:Like it doesn't.
Speaker B:There's no limitations.
Speaker B:You mentioned churches earlier.
Speaker A:There are none.
Speaker A:We sold to it.
Speaker A:We sold a pair a set to a church that was both an upright style and a grand piano style.
Speaker B:Very cool.
Speaker A:So I think they replaced both an organ and a piano.
Speaker A:So yeah, lots of.
Speaker A:We make all kinds of pianos.
Speaker B:That's really cool.
Speaker C:So you sell it to a lot of churches.
Speaker C:Surprisingly, you'd think that they would just have traditional pianos.
Speaker C:I'm shocked that, you know, churches seem to be one of your, you know, clients.
Speaker A:You know, I think, I think when it comes down to it, if the church.
Speaker A:A lot of our churches here will have extra instrumentation.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So guitar bass.
Speaker A:And they're going to struggle to stay in tune with an out of tune piano, of course.
Speaker A:So a lot of the smaller churches find it's a lot.
Speaker A:It's better off to use a keyboard for.
Speaker A:For that very reason.
Speaker A:Not to mention amplifications.
Speaker A:I don't know how many of you have ever tried to.
Speaker A:To microphone a, you know, mic a piano.
Speaker A:They're not the, they're not the funnest.
Speaker A:No, no.
Speaker A:They're terrible.
Speaker A:So yeah, it gives you the.
Speaker B:I guess it lets you have the sound that you're going for and also the look.
Speaker B:The look that is that classic grand piano look on stage.
Speaker B:So really.
Speaker A:So a lot less.
Speaker A:Lot less hassle amplification and.
Speaker A:And maintenance keeping it tuned up.
Speaker A:If you only have to pay for it once, you don't have to call in any kind of maintenance over the years.
Speaker A:So yeah, a lot of, Lot of pluses.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And then.
Speaker A:And I think that's about.
Speaker A:About all of the different ranges we, we have.
Speaker A:We do do restaurants and hotels from time to time, resorts and casinos, man, you name it.
Speaker B:Anywhere where there would be a piano required or wanted, you can work with them.
Speaker A:Schools.
Speaker A:Yeah, schools.
Speaker A:Building new auditoriums, theaters.
Speaker B:The future's here.
Speaker B:The future is here.
Speaker B:Folks.
Speaker B:I have another question.
Speaker B:I don't know if you have one more 2D, but for anyone like myself now who is very interested in actually ordering one of these things, what is the typical turnaround time?
Speaker A:Well, in order to be able to go from making 20 to 300, we can move them along pretty quick.
Speaker A:If you want something that looks like it looks on our website, we could probably turn that around in three weeks or so.
Speaker B:Yeah, that's great.
Speaker A:Yeah, it's not bad.
Speaker A:If you want custom finishes, that'll really make a change.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:We have to.
Speaker A:We have to order the finish, the finishing material and.
Speaker A:And just getting a special order finish could take six weeks.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:By itself.
Speaker A:So, yeah, you gotta get your order in if you know what you want.
Speaker A:That's for sure.
Speaker B:Let's go.
Speaker B:You heard?
Speaker C:That's amazing.
Speaker B:Man himself.
Speaker B:If you're ready for one of these things.
Speaker B:I guess the last thing we need to do is let people know where they can order, where they can find you online, social media, whatever you're using.
Speaker A:Yeah, we're.
Speaker A:We are@keyhole shells.com.
Speaker A:Pretty easy to find us online there.
Speaker A:And you know, get on our mailing list so that you can see updates, specials.
Speaker A:We.
Speaker A:We have new products we roll out all the time that.
Speaker A:That might help out your rig.
Speaker B:Nice.
Speaker A:So look us up.
Speaker C:Beautiful.
Speaker C:Beautiful.
Speaker C:We really appreciate you taking the time to chat with us, man.
Speaker C:And I. I'm dying to see one in real life.
Speaker C:I. I don't know if you've ever got the chance to see one, Anthony, but I'd love to see one.
Speaker B:Well, we're gonna talk, man.
Speaker B:I gotta.
Speaker B:I told you I got a place in order.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:So I just kind of wanted one anyway, so.
Speaker B:Talking to you.
Speaker B:I'm thinking about it.
Speaker A:Well, hey, Edit.
Speaker A:Edit me to look good and you know, we'll.
Speaker A:We'll hook you up somehow.
Speaker B:Came in ready.
Speaker B:So I guess we're done.
Speaker A:Check.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Thanks, Anthony.
Speaker A:And D. No problem.
Speaker B:Thank you.
Speaker C:Until next time, everybody.
